My gunsmith had a Siamese Mauser loaded with really hot 45-70's. I'm not recoil sensitive but three rounds of that was all I wanted. Factory 45-70 doesn't bother me a bit.
I'm stealin' that word Vic. Back in the old days as rifles were transitioning from front stuffer to cartridge you could get a rifle with a rifle (crescent) butt plate or a shotgun (flat) butt plate. The 1877 Sharps could be had with both styles, I think Sharps,( the company, not our Vic) referred to them as English or American styles. Those late Vincent Ohio style rifles will teach you how to hold a front stuffer correctly in short order. Good thing they were small caliber rifles or their exaggerated crescent butt plates would puncture you in two places if you held them like a shotgun stocked rifle.Perzackly!!!
Before I built that Gemmer styled Sharps I was tempted to buy a modern made copy of the Frank Wesson number one long range action and build on one of them. Alexander Henry sued Wesson for patent infringement on the lever release on that action and won even though Wesson built them before Henry filed for the patent on it's release mechanism. It's still up in the air who came up with it first or if they both came up with it independently, Henry filed for the patent first and Wesson had to stop making them.Gemmer anything's are just COOL!!!!
I haven't G-2 but, I've just about always had something dangerous game suitable. I never harbored any serious dreams of Africa, I did that vicariously through several friends. I just like the rifles...uhhh...the OLD rifles, doubles, old Mausers, Mannlichers and the like. None of the newer stuff, say post 1950, hold any appeal for me at all EXCEPT for the Ruger #1 and I'd rather it was an Alex Henry but, they're cost prohibitive for me.
Alexander Henry, Edinburgh --- Hammer Underlever Falling Block Single Shot Stalking Rifle --- .450 3 1/4" BPE for sale (gunsinternational.com)
That's the only single Henry I could find quickly...they're sumthin'
I gotta get down there Wednesday!all this interest in "thumper" so i went and loaded ten rounds with BP. same 350gr bullet as smokeless. 60gr BP an over powder card. no drop tube so used the vibrator cleaner to settle the powder [FFg]. what a difference! there is definitely a push, not a whack to the shoulder. crescent butt plate was not an issue.
average vol. 1225fps at 50yards 1 1/2 with one flyer opening it to 2". this is about as good as it gets for this old man. i did a wipe after each shot with 50/50 water ethylene glycol. tip by Paul Matthews. cleanup was a snap. a very good day for rick.
i liked it so much i cast a small pile of more 350gr 45-70 bullets and prepared a bunch of cases. tomorrow, tomorrow, more fun tomorrow.
what did you'all do?
You'll have to try 405 grain bullets in it, you might get the group to close up a bit. what did we all do, why, I read about you thumping some bp rounds and wish I could still get up in the hills and thump my shoulder with one of them.i liked it so much i cast a small pile of more 350gr 45-70 bullets and prepared a bunch of cases. tomorrow, tomorrow, more fun tomorrow.
what did you'all do?
Thanks, did not know this. I'm gonna try this now, luckily I am a lefty and would have been hesitant to shoot it that way if I were right handed since I dislocated and broke my right shoulder.On those crescent butt plates you don't hold them on your shoulder like a shotgun butt. You hold them out on the ball of you shoulder with the top of the crescent over you shoulder and the bottom under you arm pit. Elbow up and upper arm at 90°to your body. Raising or lowering your elbow adjusts the tilt of the rifle.
i have 405's just a weenie, "bigger bullets mean bigger bump".You'll have to try 405 grain bullets in it, you might get the group to close up a bit. what did we all do, why, I read about you thumping some bp rounds and wish I could still get up in the hills and thump my shoulder with one of them.