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    I think it's way past time for the US to cut the purse strings on this group and ask them to leave. ASAP.


    The United Nations International School disrespects the United States, some parents charge.

    Located on the FDR Drive and East 25th Street, UNIS has two flag poles jutting from the building. But no flags are flying.

    Not even the U.N. flag, although the school was founded in 1947 to serve foreign students whose parents work at the U.N. or other embassies. American students are also among the 1,500 enrolled.

    The U.N. secretary-general appoints the trustees to the UNIS board that oversees the school, which is chartered by the New York Board of Regents, receives tax funds and is subject to state education law.

    One American parent who has a child at the school said the administration's refusal to raise the Stars and Stripes is particularly insulting and insensitive following the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

    "It's an outrage. It's an embarrassment. It's a lack of leadership. It's cowardly. What's the school afraid of?" asked the parent, who requested anonymity for fear of retribution.

    UNIS high-school students, foreigners and Americans, agreed Old Glory should fly.

    "After all, we're living in the United States and the school is affiliated with the United Nations," said Stefan Gospedinov, an 18-year-old student from Bulgaria.

    "It's a disappointment that they don't have the flags up. I think it's disrespectful to the United States and the United Nations as well."

    David Sherzer, 17, a native of Spain, said the U.N. school is being "too politically correct" to avoid alienating families who may have anti-American views.

    "They've forgotten the fact that 3,000 people died here on Sept. 11," Sherzer said.

    UNIS Director Kenneth Wrye defended the school's no-flag policy.

    "We're not an American school. We are a United Nations school. It's that simple," Wrye said.



    It isn't "that simple."Despite being UN school, UNIS is located on the soil of its host country and not on the grounds of the UN, gets tax money from New York state, and has Americans in its student body.

    Perhaps New York should reconsider showering the tax dollars of New Yorkers on this "United Nations school," which takes its money but bans its flag.















    Edited by: bondai at: 4/22/02 12:20:32 pm

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    What do I care about what a UN-chartered school chooses to do? The UN may be seated in NYC, the USA may steer it's course (most of the time), but what's the issue of their exercising their autonomy?

    Over the last ~15 years, the USA has failed to meet it's financial obligations to the UN, paying its share of UN dues both very late, and not in full. In fact, in 1999, the USA was ~$1.5 Billion arrears, and in immediate danger of being thrown out on its ear / losing any Vote powers.
    Congress authorized a 'partial' payment of these back-dues, to the tune of $900 Million. I have no idea if we've actually paid any of it.

    In fact, our non-participation in the UN is so embarassing, that we failed to block / have any input on the election of Syria to the UN Security Council. Imagine that. A pissant like Syria has a Vote / Veto power equal to our own.

    Everyone should read up on general US opinion polls on the UN:
    www.americans-world.org/d...un/un1.cfm
    or
    The United Nations itself, www.UNO.org

    Hell, I think the USA should be ruling the entire planet. But I'll have to settle for it being the Economic, Technical, Industrial, Military leader (notice - NOT the Education or wealth-per-capita )

    Question for Bondai - how long you going to keep spamming the Gen'l Discussion forum with this kind of hate-mongering divisive bullshit?


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    Turn it over to "RILEY" @ FOX TV.....
    AND, hold onto your hat!

    OR - Let CUBA loan tha US enough Dollars to
    settle their due bills!

    Charlie D
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    Off-Shore account.....

    bondai
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    First of all it isn't spam. If you don't like it don't read it, the choice is yours. You must have been interested or you wouldn't have taken the time to respond. You assume a great deal. There is no mention of hate in this article.

    I am ANTI UN, PERIOD! The UN was formed by Communists and Socialists and I don't think the US has any business being involved with them. What good have they done ? None that I can see. I am tired of the U.N. dictating to the U.S. what we will do and what we won't do. If you want to support the U.N. go ahead, send them a check. As for me the sooner they are gone from U.S. soil, the better. I could care less what some BS poll says or what the UN's web site has to say. I know what they are about and it has nothing to do with whats on their web site.

    If you have a problem with the content of my posts or you feel I am violating forum rules I suggest you take it up with Admin...It's been nice chatting with you.




    "Question for Bondai - how long you going to keep spamming the Gen'l Discussion forum with this kind of hate-mongering divisive bullshit?"


    Edited by: bondai at: 4/22/02 2:47:41 pm

    rayra
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    I expressed my opinion, just as you have / do. No difference.

    I visit this board 3-4 times a week, and look through most of the threads, regardless of their title or author, to see what's going on, to see if I can learn anything, to see if I can contribute anything.

    Almost invariably, when I read a thread that contains some umbrage about gun-related laws, or global events, its author is YOU, bondai. Don't you ever have something positive to say or postivie news to relate?

    As for your statements on the UN - I say (and in contrast to you) we should be USING the UN to push our own National agenda. For all those complaining about the UN's actions - I say that the reason the UN has wandered down the path it has in the last 20 years, specifically because the USA has failed to provide any strong leadership in that arena.

    Isolationism is not the answer.
    Our very failure to take the Lead in Global politics has created the conditions that allow terrorism to spread. That allow State-Religion-run madrasas to preach that the US is the 'Great Satan'. No person / religion is inherently evil. A person who only hears a single source of information, or gospel, or 'Pravda' can be tailor-made to perform whatever godless acts their leaders require - be it teenage FEMALE suicide bombers, or aircraft-hijacking terrorists.
    If the US were to focus our energy to spreading information, culture, and MORE FREEDOM to the people of the World, we would all be better off.

    Thus, we should be HEAVILY involved in the UN, instead of holding it at arm's length (or abandoning it, as you've advocated).


    And Global Politics aside -
    The UN served us well during the Cold War.
    The UN has fed / immunized Millions of people.
    The UN is the Global court (of opinion).

    nighthawksh
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    The establishment of the UN was instigated by the strong support of FDR, and formulated in 1945 by 3 capiltist countries (The US, China, and England) and one communist country, the USSR

    direct quote rom UN doctrine:

    "UN Members are sovereign countries. The United Nations is not a world government, and it does not make laws."


    nighthawk

    If the Constitution applies to one, then it MUST apply to all!
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    The pure and simple truth is never pure and seldom simple

    rayra
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    Bondai, you make my point (about your postings) for me - here's the current crop / top-most threads in the Gen'l Discussion Forum:



    bondai
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    I have to leave for work right now so I'll have to get back to you later and watch out for that spam OK.

    rayra
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    'kay

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    The UN is a New World Order who'd like nothing
    better than to disarm this nation!



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    mausermania
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    Bondai,

    I'm a new member here,and while I haven't read all of what the members here have posted,including you,I would RATHER BE INFORMED than stick my head in the sand. If I disagree with something TS. That MY right,and YOURS. As I see it,you are exercising your opinion,and FREE SPEECH! SO, POST AWAY!


    This post is not meant to flame anyone,but I think that there are more important things to worry about such as GUNCONTROL, Patriot Act, etc.....

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    bondai, I enjoy nearly every one of your posts and missed them when you weren't around last week. Please continue to find and posts these topics/issues that I would other wise be unaware of, Thanks!!






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    Nighthawkish...."The establishment of the UN was instigated by the strong support of FDR, and formulated in 1945 by 3 capiltist countries (The US, China, and England) and one communist country, the USSR."

    You forgot France.

    All five are the permanent members of the Security Council.

    nighthawksh
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    Xracer,,you are basically correct, let me re-state my quote;

    "In 1945, representatives of 50 countries met in San Francisco at the United Nations Conference on International Organization to draw up the United Nations Charter. Those delegates deliberated on the basis of proposals worked out by the representatives of China, the Soviet Union, the United Kingdom and the United States at Dumbarton Oaks, United States in August-October 1944."

    France demanded "equality" with the "Big 4" of WWII days, so was allowed to become a permanant member of the security council
    Stan H ,, nighthawk
    The pure and simple truth is never pure and seldom simple

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    "David Sherzer, 17, a native of Spain, said the U.N. school is being "too politically correct" to avoid alienating families who may have anti-American views."

    I highlighted an interesting part of this comment and believe they do bow to that very feeling, so I say to those who are anti-AMERICAN and here...... don`t let the sea wet yer ass on the way home!!!

    T.F.F.

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    rayra....

    Spam is unsolicited e-mail on the Internet. From the sender's point-of-view, it's a form of bulk mail, often to a list culled from subscribers to a Usenet discussion group or obtained by companies that specialize in creating e-mail distribution lists. To the receiver, it usually seems like junk e-mail. In general, it's not considered good netiquette to send spam. It's generally equivalent to unsolicited phone marketing calls except that the user pays for part of the message since everyone shares the cost of maintaining the Internet.
    Some apparently unsolicited e-mail is, in fact, e-mail people agreed to receive when they registered with a site and checked a box agreeing to receive postings about particular products or interests. This is known as both opt-in e-mail and permission-based e-mail

    "now go buy some cheese to go with that whine.


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    rayra - just because you don't care for what Bondai posts does not mean that it is spam.

    The concensus so far is that what bondai posts have valid points and should be addressed.

    While I understand where you are coming from I find myself totally opposed to your sentiments.

    rayra
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    and that's a totally acceptable place to be.

    I care not a whit for the textbook Internet definition of 'spam'.
    Spam to me is the repeated receipt or exposure to things I find unpleasant, in a place / location I routinely go / use. Particulary when it comes from a single source / person.

    I share many of the same views, and certainly a similar strong interest in firearms and firearms rights as many of you, and, yes, I am whining - after all, this is the General Discussion Forum.
    I enjoy and participate in the many sub-forums of TFF.

    Having said all that - I find it tiresome to come to the General Discussion forum and routinely find the same litany of emotional button-pushing articles posing as 'news alerts'.

    If so many of you have such strong negative feelings towards the other poeples / countries / religions of the World, or our own Government, why can't you at least discuss the issues, and propose changes you think would work. Instead you post inflammatory articles that do nothing more than state - "There's the Enemy, Burn them!".

    Happy to exchange humorous gun tales, and firearm-related technical information (and particularly Military History) with ANY of you, in any of the other sub-forums.

    But I'll stand up and speak my own opinion (God Bless America ) (and the Internet ) - the constant, repetitive posting of articles designed to do nothing more than evoke raw negative emotional response is a waste of bandwidth and my time.

    And before one of you reactionaries says it to me - I won't let the door hit me in the ass on my way out (of Gen'l Discussion).



    bondai
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    rayra..


    A PLACE TO DISCUSS ANY TOPICS AT ALL(within reason), SHARE YOUR IDEAS, OPINIONS, DEBATE, SHARE INFORMATION, etc.

    Is there something about the above statement that you don't understand?

    If you don't like my post's. Then don't read or reply to them.It's that simple.If you want to discuss something else then post something we can respond to. All I have heard so far is a bunch of sniffling.

    the real fredneck
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    bondai last week the Supreme Court must have ruined your day with their ruling on virtual porn, seems it IS protected by the 1st Amendment















    NEENER NEENER

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    I for one enjoy the political posts bondai provides us with.

    It is nowhere near the spam that josey contributes to Brand X.


    I have always thought it great that we ae not paying our dues to the UN. It really makes me angry when they try to push the US around. I would love it if we pulled out of that ANTI AMERICAN organization.


    Rayra you are free to post your own topics in GD to make it what you think it should be. If you do not like someones posts don't read them
    I'm a man of means by no means

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    Fred,

    It didn't ruin my day but when I read the article I thought of you and knew you would be celebrating. At the time of our original discussion the case had not yet been decided. It has been decided now by the supreme court,so be it.

    That doesn't mean I have to agree with it.

    Amendment I

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

    I am just wondering how we have come to this point in our history where the exploitation of children (in any form) has been defined as free speech. I think that the decision reached by the supreme court is Liberal in nature, way Liberal.


    I guess childporn is like everything else.It is all a matter of supply and demand. If there wasn't a demand the supply would dry up.

    Edited by: bondai at: 4/23/02 10:07:55 am

    the real fredneck
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    once again bondai you only want to tell half the story, my copy of the Constitution of the United States of America has this as Amendment 1:


    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

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    It would be nice if you would at least allow me to respond before starting your inevitable attack.

    I do not interpret the term "free speech" as it applies the 1st Amendment as "anything goes" , you do. That's your right.



    the real fredneck
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    bondai regarding your misquote of the Constitution check the time, bait and edit??

    I don't think the 1st means anything goes, freedom of speech is not the right to yell FIRE in a crowded theater, however the Supremes had the prescience to realize that a collection of 1's and 0's arranged in a specific sequence was no different than pen and ink, brush and canvas, stone and chisel, pick your medium

    child porn requires a victim, not very likely we'll ever see an inorganic microprocessor as a guest on Rosie or Oprah

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    Fred,
    I have stated my opinion on the subject.Further debate between us on this matter is useless and a waste of my time. There is no common ground between us when it comes to childporn or the depiction of children in sexually explicit poses, whether it be real or computer generated.


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    As a racist (the entire HUMAN race) I believe the UN is the best available forum for for democratically settling international problems. It is certainly not the best POSSIBLE forum, but the best we've come up with yet. I agree with rayra's comments on the UN. We whould help it to work better, rather than undermining it like spoiled brats when it doesn't do things our way. I believe America is by far the best and strongest country in this world. We should use that position for the good of the entire world, not just to satisfy our pride and economy.

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    I for one will continue to post GOA, NRA and ANY
    other alerts or helpful info that needs to inform,
    and I encourage all TFF members, visitors, the
    firearms community as a whole and anyone else
    who holds the U.S. Constitution near, dear and
    sacred, people have and are still laying down
    their lives for it, let us not disrespect them!


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    jimejones:

    As a nation we should satisfy our Pride and our economy. Why is it that just about every other country gets all bent out of shape when the U.S. display's it's pride in itself as a nation? Why are these blame America first nations always' the first in line for a handout? We give them money and all forms of AID, money and AID produced by our "evil capalist economy"

    The U.N. is the first to bad mouth the U.S. every chance it gets. You give me one positive thing the U.N. has accomplished and I'll give you at least 5 negative results for every feeble attempt they have made to solve a problem.

    The U.N. is made up of Terrorist supporters,Socialists,communists,racists,fascist and their only purpose is to bring the U.S. down to their level and destroy our unity and our success. Save the taxpayers some money and close the doors.

    the real fredneck
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    remember The League of Nations????r

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    I have had the good fortune to work with more than one UN organization in a few of my overseas assignments, during my 20 years serving this country. I found them to be neither Communist nor terrorist, and never once saw any attempt to "bring the U.S. down to their level and destroy our unity and our success".
    On the contrary, I was well received and respected.

    All I ask is for proof, not innuendo. When I see a newspaper or web page spouting one-side rhetoric (left, right, or whatever) I always look for substantiating facts in other media. I have yet to find anything substantiating most of the charges against the UN made here of TFF.
    Stan H ,, nighthawk
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    Do a little research and you'll find out!
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    All in a "Nut shell", We as a Country have become lazy, opened our doors and shared our wealth...
    For WHAT?
    We can start about anywhere with about any subject matter, and show where the hand that fed them got BIT!
    I suggest we're regrouping now and I pray for the strength and knowledge to continue our growth. Right here in the good old U.S.A.


    I'll take my seat now

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    A small amount of reading for those convinced that the U.N. is a noble and trustworthy organization.

    "In order to stabilize world population, it is necessary to eliminate 350,000 people a day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it's just as bad not to say it."
    - Oceanographer Jaques Cousteau
    Published in the Courier, a publication of
    the United Nations Educational, Scientific
    and Cultural Organization (UNESCO)

    www.getusout.org/un/articles/death_covenant.htm

    "We strongly endorse community initiatives ... to encourage the disarming of civilians...."
    - Our Global Neighborhood,
    published in 1995 by the UN-funded
    Commission on Global Governance.

    www.getusout.org/un/articles/global_gestapo.htm

    "Every child is our child."
    - Motto of the United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF)

    www.getusout.org/un/articles/global_child.htm

    www.getusout.org/un/articles/un_child.htm

    "I want to extend condolences to the families of those who died in the service of the United Nations."
    - Al Gore, June 12, 1994, in reference
    to 15 U.S. Servicemen killed while
    enforcing a "no-fly-zone" in Iraq

    www.getusout.org/un/articles/taking_a_stand.htm

    www.getusout.org/un/articles/courage_in_battle.htm

    www.getusout.org/un/articles/not_un_soldier.htm

    "Private land ownership ... contributes to social injustice.... Public control of land use is therefore indispensable."
    - United Nations "Habitat I" Conference Report, 1976

    www.getusout.org/un/articles/green_machine.htm

    "Secretary General Boutros Boutros-Ghali ... urged the [UN] to consider imposing its own taxes to become less dependent on the United States...."
    -Washington Times, January 16, 1996

    www.getusout.org/un/articles/monterrey.htm

    www.getusout.org/un/articles/imf_asia.htm

    "Syria won a seat on the U.N. Security Council ... with overwhelming global support and no opposition from the United States, despite its prominent position on the U.S. list of nations sponsoring terrorism."
    - Associated Press
    October 8, 2001

    www.getusout.org/un/articles/justice.htm

    www.getusout.org/un/articles/roots.htm

    www.thenewamerican.com/tna/2001/10-22-2001/vo17no22_un_not_friend.htm

    www.thenewamerican.com/tna/1995/vo11no07/vo11no07_un_cliches.htm



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    there you go again Bondai, holdin' back :lol


    bondai
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    Sorry ! I'll try to do more better.....HEHEHEHEHEHE!!!!!

    Now excuse me, I have to work on my "virtually reality" friend........

    Edited by: bondai at: 4/23/02 1:14:15 pm

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    I will make one more comment on this thread, then leave it alone.

    All of the quotes Mr Bondai show above come from 2 references, both far-right conservative organizations (in comparison to the majority of Americans). Also, most of them appear to be partial quotes, taken out of context. There are ALWAYS 2 sides to every story.

    In my Advanced course at Ft Harrison in 1978, I wrote a thesis on the United Nations for my International Studies class. As I review the charter of the United Nations today, I see it remains the same as then. And there was nothing in the charter then nor now supporting a world government.


    Stan H ,, nighthawk
    If the Constitution applies to one, it MUST apply to all!

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    If the UN is so Pro American then why are they so worried about displaying the American flag on American soil in a UN school that has it's hand out for American taxpayers dollars???



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    rayra
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    Who said the UN was Pro-American?

    For my part, I'm saying we ought to be USING it to OUR advantage, instead of withdrawing from it.
    Like any conduit, objects / ideas / krap can flow BOTH ways. I say we flood the channel from OUR end and remake the place in OUR image.

    For those voicing their own opinions and support of bondai on these rights issues - more power to you. I'm not looking to crimp anyone's rights or opinions. My comments are solely on the DULL MONOTONY of it.

    Bondai's posting of the 'wealth' from those two ultraright sites is again an example of my point - if I shared / valued that Far Right viewpoint, I would be hanging out at THOSE FORUMS. Instead, courtesy of Bondai and a few others, I get to bathe in their rhetoric here at The Firearms Forum, instead. Not why I came here. I'm not here at The Firearms Forum for treatises on World government or exhortations on race, religion, purity, whatever.
    If I sought that kind of thinking, I'd be suckling at the prime sources.
    If that kind of Far-Right-Think is a key part of Charter of this cyberplace, well, no thanks.

    Again, happy to share and participate in firearm-related information, it's how / why I found this board. I've got a lot of experience to contribute. See you all in the other sub-forums.


    bondai
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    Feel free to adjust meter as required. I have plenty of references from all over the place, but some folks just won't admit that the U.N. is up to no good, so why waste the time.




    Edited by: bondai at: 4/23/02 5:22:57 pm

    bondai
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    Here is another nail in the coffin. I thought Bush was a conservative, I guess I was wrong.


    www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2002/4/23/174325

    the real fredneck
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    I have always thought that George 1st and George 2nd were both bought and paid for before arrival
    could it be we agree on something bondai???????



    lordy, please mammy, say it ain't so

    bondai
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    SSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Don't tell anyone.Maybe they won't notice..


    The law of averages say's it will happen once in awhile...but lets not make a habit of it :)

    warpig883
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    Wasn't GB sr. a member of the trilateral commision? What about GB jr?
    I'm a man of means by no means
     
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