UN Small Arms Treaty Passes While Media Sleeps

Discussion in 'The Constitutional & RKBA Forum' started by montezumaz, Sep 19, 2012.

  1. montezumaz

    montezumaz Former Guest

    Aug 19, 2012
    Central AZ (Yavapai County)
    Hillary Welcomes Global Gun Ban :mad:

    The United Nations Small Arms Treaty passed in its second session. The Media was silent over its passage. Ahhh yes, the cries of terrorism and drugs and bogey men for the passage of the treaty. This comes from member nations who knowingly promote these kinds of things. Even the United States is now in the midst of a scandal involving gun-walking, known as Fast and Furious, and at least one man arrested has come forward and said that Fast and Furious was all about arming drug cartels in Mexico, never about tracking them. All countries signed the declaration. Right about now you are probably thinking, so what? As long as the Senate doesn’t ratify, all is well. Ask yourself if you are familiar with the United Nation’s Agenda 21. The Senate didn’t ratify that. Instead Bill Clinton basically passed it by executive order. So it is perfectly feasible that this will be implemented over a period of years, but very short years. Legislation is currently before Congress to put the squeeze on those of us wishing to maintain our Second Amendment rights. By the way, what has been covered during the past week? Oh that’s right, some anti-Islamic film, nude pictures of Duchess Kate and a few political gaffes. - Tim Brown
  2. Gun Geezer

    Gun Geezer Well-Known Member

    Oct 5, 2009
    Central Florida
    They never let a good crisis go to waste. It never hurts to have a diversion to prevent the public from realizing they are being screwed until its too late!

  3. WHSmithIV

    WHSmithIV Well-Known Member

    May 3, 2012
    Moore, Idaho
    Ok - before anyone gets overly upset or concerned about this treaty - you can all relax. I have read the entire treaty. As in most (if not all) UN treaties, there isn't a lot of substance in this one. The treaty is full of the term 'illicit arms' - these being guns sold by gunrunners to areas of conflict. The only item with any substance at all is the Programme of Action and the International Tracing Instrument. The Program of action part is also typical watered down UN treaty text. All it does is have the signatories meet and review what they have done to stop 'illicit cross border arms transfers'.

    So far, the only details in the 'Tracing Instrument' are making sure that firearms have serial numbers. Well, we already have that.

    Part of this entire treaty also deals with illicit manufacture of firearms. So guys - please don't start your own metal works in your garage and make pistols or rifles then sell them to Islamist groups (or anyone else for that matter).

    That is all there actually is in the treaty. So, it's basically just another watered down useless treaty from the UN. There aren't any actual targets to achieve, no numbers presented on where these 'illicit' firearms are going or where they were supposedly sent from and no 'punishments' for countries who don't meet the non-existent targets.

    Now, those bills before our Senate are much more disturbing than this useless treaty. Having to buy ammo in person. Sales of over 1000 rounds having to be registered. Ban in internet sales. This is BAD BAD BAD.

    There are a couple other bills that are also very disturbing.

    Child Gun Safety And Gun Access Prevention Act Of 2011
    This one raises the age of ‘Juvenile’ to ‘under 21′ with penalties for transfer of guns, ammunition, high capacity clips to anyone under 21 who might commit a crime. This one is bound to pass, because of the New Speak in the title. The socialists will love it.

    Gun Show Loophole Closing Act of 2011.
    It is H.R. 591, in the House and S.35 in the Senate. It would permanently ban Gun Shows if passed.

    Fix Gun Checks Act of 2011.
    This one penalizes states that don’t report enough violators to the National Instant Criminal Background Checks. In the Senate it is S. 436.

    This last one makes me wonder a little. How many violators is 'enough'? Are the states supposed to start convicting innocent gun owners of fake violations in order to report a number that is 'enough'?
    Last edited: Sep 20, 2012
  4. aa1911

    aa1911 Well-Known Member

    Dec 12, 2010
    Pacific Northwest
    the ammo thing is killing me. So if I buy 1000 rounds, i'm the next mass murderer but as long as I only buy in 999 or less, I could in no way do anything wrong?

    who's to stop someone from making multiple small purchases over a short time that could easily equal many thousands of rounds. And how many of these mass shootings does the shooter use more than 100 rounds? it's nonsense....

    more false security just like the TSA.
    going to stay tuned to this though, curious to see how it shakes out
  5. firefighter1635

    firefighter1635 Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2012
    FEMA Region V
    Hmmmm.. That's me! I can't afford to purchase thousands all at one time, i've been buying a little here and a little there for aloooong time :D.

    It makes sense to you and I but they'll never get it.
  6. stumpjumper

    stumpjumper Active Member

    Jun 4, 2012
    this one I can see sneaking through, on the same lines of the highway transportation act whereas states lose highway funds if they don't show a certain amount of citations to prove they are increasing safety on the highways.
    jersey wouldn't write enough speeding tickets if it raised the limit to 70 on the interstates, that's why you plod along as 80, er, 65.
  7. ryan42

    ryan42 New Member

    Jan 28, 2012
    marion indiana
    What I do to add to inventory is for every box of ammo I shoot I make double so I can stock up.I used to shoot everything I made but not any more.Thats what ive been doing late at night since my wife isnt here with me.Its pretty easy to get bored.
  8. Double D

    Double D Administrator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Jul 16, 2009
    North Florida
    ANY treaty they agree on is bad. Its wording can be twisted and used against us eventually. We do not want ANY treatys with the UN at all, period. I dont care what they read.
  9. carver

    carver Moderator Supporting Member

    Jul 28, 2008
    DAV, Deep in the Pineywoods of E. Texas!
    I totally agree! Get the U.S. out of the U.N.! This might be a bare bones treaty, but you can bet your last dollar that the door has opened a little wider, and it won't take long before they start adding a little flesh to those bones!
  10. whirley

    whirley Member

    Jan 27, 2008
    Who defines "Illicit Arms"? If it's Washington officials, our necks are already in the noose!Like California's definition of "assault rifles"---Any type of weapon used in a war, which includes my flintlock muzzle stuffer! On Letterman--Obama said the debt is not a problem in the near future, but could be a problem later on. In otherwords.this Nation is in a minefield, and Obama has no idea what to do, and obviously no plan to correct the situation. Obama, first dictator of the former Republic of the United States!
  11. 45Auto

    45Auto Well-Known Member

    Apr 9, 2008
  12. AL MOUNT

    AL MOUNT Active Member

    Oct 9, 2006
    Cleaning my Thompson in The Foothills of the Ozark
    I personally would never believe Snopes, as I believe the guy & his wife are in the bag for Democrats, Liberals, Obama etc., inspite of their denial of such.
  13. Iron Eagle

    Iron Eagle Well-Known Member

    Feb 17, 2012
    According to a NRA email I just received, it is not true.
  14. Nighthawk

    Nighthawk New Member

    Aug 22, 2006
    South Central Texas
    I can not find any reference to it on GOA site. I can't find any reference to
    it on any other site, but one listed above.
  15. Hawg

    Hawg Well-Known Member

    Mar 23, 2011
    We didn't sign it and neither did Russia or China.
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