vintage WESTERN AMMO

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  1. wolfgang

    wolfgang New Member

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    Can someone help me date the two ammo boxes
    below, both are 158 gr luboloy .:eek:
    many thanks,wolf


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  2. BobMcG

    BobMcG Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    They're ca 1950 and referred to as "Bullseye" boxes.

    See correction below.
     
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    howody BobMcG , after these came the yellow super X boxes , would you know aprox. when ???
    wolf;)
     
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    BobMcG Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    The "Bullseye" boxes I should have said were ca 1939 to '45. After them were the "Yellow & Blue boxes" ca '45 - early '50s . The "Yellow" boxes came out in the '50s and continued into the late '60s when they were replaced with the Winchester Western "White" boxes.
    The "yellow" boxes came in two types, pre-1962 didn't have the child warnings on the front labels and from '62 on had to have the warnings (as did all ammo).
     

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    hi BobMcG, many thanks you gave me all the info I needed on Western Winchester boxes have a great day, wolf
     
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    BobMcG Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    The above "yellow" box w/o the child safety warning is not a super X example but here is one.
     

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    howdy bob , many thanks , I just spotted your a fellow NYer, I am in the south , slightly above the border from the people republic of new jersey , where do you hale from ??? wolf
     
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    Up in the north.

    (I do a lot of work in southern NY and NJ though.)
     
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    hi bob , welcome . I am in rockland the air pit above New Jersey , stay well, wolf
     
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    Hey Wolf, you starting up a Western cartridge collection?
     
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    hi bob , I have a collection of old ammo boxes [ it keeps growing] and like to know the approx. dates , there a gun show coming in Orange County at thr Fair grounds , may 2 &3,
    I am working on a pair of Peters today pic below , is one box more accurate than the other and why other than the print on the box , just curious , wolf

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    BobMcG Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    That's cool. I dabble a little bit in collecting certain cartridges myself.

    As others have told you, a service round will usually be hotter than a target round. It's relying on high velocity to perform it's duty of stopping power. A target round isn't developed for stopping power but rather for accuracy and consistency. This is usually achieved at less than maximum velocities.

    The Peters boxes have Styrofoam inside by any chance?
     
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    hi bob , according to the Shooter Bible specs both rounds have the same FPS which is 870 , really not hot rounds , will try to email Cal Bob and ask his view in the 1970-80's he shot with the LAPD pistol team , a great guy
    yes both boxes have Styrofoam.
    many thanks for your thoghts, wolf
     
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    That's interesting. Two different stock numbers too. You wouldn't happen to know if they had the same MSRP too do you? If by chance the target ammo retailed for more, one might hazard a guess that more time and care went into the manufacture of them with maybe more precise powder charges and selected bullets by weight. ??? :confused:
     
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    Here was another Peters offering along the same line but loaded with a Wadcutter and a plastic round holder.
     

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