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Anyone have experiance with the newer ones. LGS has a couple, a black and a nickel, for $359. I understand they don't like budget ammo. That doesn't bother me just wondering about how they hold up and if they are reasonably accurrate :unsure:
 

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I do not have experience with the PPK but I do have the P22 which receives the same ammo feed issue gripes. I tried oh, maybe 5-6 different types of ammo and believe it or not? Remington Golden bullets run flawlessly. If it’s a gun You want I’d get it. Just plan on some time experimenting with ammo.
 

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My wife had one and sold it due to the heavy trigger,17#. She needed 2 fingers to pull the trigger.We actually traded it for the Walther P22q, Still a picky gun with ammo, just use CCI and it's good.No Remington.
I understand the DA pull is heavy. How was the SA?
 

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I thought of the Walther since I have a 9mm P99QA which is a fine pistol.
And I too have heard about reliability issues with the PPK 22.
But for the .22's I opted for the Taurus 22 TX and the S&W 22C.
Both of them will eat anything you feed them.
Trigger pull is great on both of them.
The S&W 22C is closer to the PPK, but the unique shape of the PPK (and Bersa Thunder) makes it hard to compare.
The S&W is also a bit lighter, if that is a consideration.
 

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I own a P22, but I've wondered about the new PPK/s. I didn't realize they were that affordable though. It's an iconic design for sure. :unsure:
 

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If you like the look of the PPK but don't want to spend the cash, Bersa Thunder is available in .22 cal, the PPK clone.
........for about $100 less than the PPK.
I have the Bersa Thunder .380 that I bought when I was 21 as my first handgun, 22 years ago. The PPK-esque design is part of what attracted me to the Bersa. I'll keep my eyes peeled. I'd like to handle the Walther, but I too hear that the first pull of the trigger in DA is nasty. :oops:
 

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I have the Bersa Thunder .380 that I bought when I was 21 as my first handgun, 22 years ago.
It wasn't my first, but I bought one (wife bought me one) about 5 years ago.
The PPK design is what attracted me to it as well.'
They were first made in 1931 so I imagine they were a lot rougher then than today.
I still like them.....just couldn't justify twice the price for a gun that was identical in design.
 

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I own a P22, but I've wondered about the new PPK/s. I didn't realize they were that affordable though. It's an iconic design for sure. :unsure:
They are affordable, (the ones with the Fort Smith AK markings). Because the frames are made of alloy die castings. Not like the older German and U.S. made pistols. That were all steel.

I believe that the innards have been changed substantially also, for economical manufacturing purposes. Although cosmetically they resemble the originals. It's only skin deep.
 

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I have one. Highlights:
  • You need a pair of vise grips to pull the trigger in double action mode
  • the hammer rebound safety is the same spring as the hammer so if you lighten the trigger pull it doesnt have enough spring to overcome the rebound. It's accomplished with a formed rod in the hammer spring so the hammer rebound somewhat is by loading from the rod. If you modify the rod shape enough to lighten the rebound load the trigger mech get jammed up and wont fuction at all.
  • you can change springs and make the trigger nice to pull but then it wont fire because of the rebounding hammer 🤬
  • It somewhat works out of the box but is not reliable enough for any defensive role. Works just good enough to pee you off when target shooting.
  • also the decocker makes it jam up the trigger mech and it wont fire afterwards. Basically you either have to shoot all the bullets in it out or pull the mag and take the one out of the chamber. If you put the safety decocker on it wont fire again.
  • basically its a very well designed and built gun thats a POS.
 

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I’ve had two, one new and one used. Was looking for a carry 22 that was of level of accuracy to compare with a S&W m34 Kit Gun. Both were a disappointment in function and accuracy department.
That is a goal I didn’t reach on 32 frame , 22s.
I’ve also had a few P22s. All took on trades and very nice shape, just short of NIB, the only way I would except one. They seem to function well with bulk ammo. While not target guns they are decent plinkers. I recently had a P22 Target which I gave to my boy. Just the gun for him. Shoots anything, low maintenance and durable.
 

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The p22 can be made to shoot and is accurate above expectations of that size gun. You have to tinker on it though. Unless they have changed it - it has a liner in the regular 380 sized barrel and no feed ramp at the end of the liner. The p22 is easy to rack and has a decent trigger pull.

The ppk/s is not. Its fairly accurate but that doesn't matter much if it won't work and you can't fix it. Its also heavier than my all steel SW 36 38spl.
 

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I own a P22, but I've wondered about the new PPK/s. I didn't realize they were that affordable though. It's an iconic design for sure. :unsure:
The reason they are so affordable, is they have none of the hand fitting,polishing or craftmanship that made old Walthers legendary for accuracy and reliability. I love Walthers, but do not buy any of the guns made since Umarex took them over (2010?) I think.
They have a long DA trigger pull, but it is smooth though heavy. Single action is sweet, they are almost works of art.
Here in the U.S., S & W produced Walthers the same quality as the Marlins that Remington produced for years before they got their act together. QC was a Crap Shoot. So far, I haven't seen much to convince me that the Walther plant in Arkansas is doing much better. The American made Interarms SS Walther's QC was reportedly casino like as well, but I have never had issue with either of my Interarms guns. If you can find an old (pre 2000) PPK,PPK/s, or PP in either .380 or .32acp(Best), spend the extra for it, just have patience.
No offense to owners of the newer guns, I feel the same about Beretta, Colt, S & W, but I'm an old geezer.
If YOU have the time, skills and put the effort into these new guns, you can do all the polishing that they don't do anymore and turn them into great shooters.
To do it at the factory would be labor intensive and inflation over the years has raised the cost of both labor and materials.
To make it at a price point where more can afford it, machine tool marks are left where they can't be seen anyway, if blued, its not the old deep hot tank blue, but an easier to apply (albeit more corrosion/wear resistant).You get the idea, but the materials are excellent, CNC machined to fine tolerances, again, this makes it more affordable, but there is as little polishing done as they can get away with and still have the gun function (or not in some cases, without repeated returns to manufacturer.)
Anyway, if you take a new PPK and can do this, or afford to have it done, it will be as good a shooter as the old German ones. Hope this helps. YMMV ;)
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