This thread was started last week but somehow went MIA after awhile and is somewhere in the Twilight Zone now . If you did reply to it please repost your reply . Was some good info I would like to reread . Will try to repeat what I posted. After looking over my modest bullet collection I got interested in my Pinfire bullet and it seems metallic cartridges were used quite a bit more in Europe then here in US . I also was talking about how while we were using the Trapdoor the Swiss were using a repeater with a mid caliber round with the Swiss Vetterli rifle . There was some talk about the 71/84 Mauser with the 43 Mauser or 11 mm Mauser and about how I made brass from 45/90 brass and the process . Cap&Ball Chanell on youtube has a good video on that subject . If there was something I posted and someone wants me to repost it say something , I can't remember everything I did post . I am lucky I can remember what I had for lunch .