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Discussion in 'The Ask the Pros & What's It Worth? Forum' started by Earl Roy Gilpin, Apr 6, 2009.

  1. Earl Roy Gilpin

    Earl Roy Gilpin New Member

    Apr 6, 2009
    A friend brought over an old pistol. Breakaway, 5 round, seems to be a 38 size cartridge. Serial # under trigger guard 4 38 9 2. Serial # under pistol grip G43892. Name on top of barrel DIVER JOHNSON'S ARMS & CYCLE WORKS, next line FITCHBURG MASS,U.S.A. There is an owl on the grip looking towards the trigger. Barrel length 3 1/4 inches. Missing firing pin mechanism,can this be replaced or re-done? And what exactly do we have here? It has been searched extensively for any other markings that could help in establishing year, make, model, worth and such. Any thing you could help shed a light on this would be helpful, thank you very much. Topdawg50@comcast.net
  2. RJay

    RJay Well-Known Member

    Feb 22, 2004
    Goodyear, Arizona
    dIver Johnson??? :) Try Iver Johnson. If you search this forum you will come up with a wealth of information furnished by Mr. Bill Goforth. He will be around by and by. In the meantime do a little research.
    Last edited: Apr 6, 2009

  3. b.goforth

    b.goforth New Member

    Dec 30, 2003
    houston, tx
    this is a large frame second model (1896-1908) 38S&W caliber safety automatic revolver. the "G" letter code was used in 1898,1899 and then again in 1902. the problem is in these years the patent dates were on the top of the barrel rib. check the bottom of the barrel top strap above the cylinder and see if the serial number located there is the same as the frame serial number (this location will not have the letter code). i supect this revolver has a barrel from a 1903 or later second model. patent date markings were moved to the bottom of the butt in 1903.

    the firing pin is a easy replacement. you will need a large frame second model firing pin , spring and bushing. the bushing is threaded into the frame to hold the firing pin and spring in place.