i recieved this gun from my grand dad years ago. any idea of the history behind these things. ive herd every thing from ww2 german training rifles to late 1800s comercial rifles. i havent found anyone yeat to convence me of there knowlege about these guns. i baught a second one today but still dont have any info. the second one is totally different. besides looking similar none of the parts are interchangeable, on a interesting note all of the markings are the same on both guns and neither have serial numbers. ill post pictures of the second gun when i can get my camera working. click for bigger pictures.