Why was 600m chosen as a target distance?

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  1. Hasaf

    Hasaf Active Member

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    Last night I was talking to a co-worker about sporting use of the AR-15 platform and I mentioned 600m target. He later asked me a question that I was unable to answer, why was 600m chosen as a distance for target shooting?
    EDIT: Should read yards
     
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  2. Shooter45

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    600 m ?
    NRA Hi-Power Competition uses targets at 200, 300 and 600 YARDS.
     
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  3. Hasaf

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    Sorry, meant yards, I tend to think in meters. In particular, I was think of the CMP (civilian marksmanship program) competition..
     
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    They did it, because they could.
     
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    gdmoody Moderator Supporting Member

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    When I was shooting competition with the US Army way back in the early 70s, it was 600 meters NOT yards and it was know as a 600m KD range. It stood for 600 meter Known Distance. We shot with the M-14, not the M-16!
     
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    My guess would be is because of the maximum effective range that each of the service rifles fired. The m16 had a maximum effective range of 600 yards, the M14 had a 500 yard effective range and the M1 was 440 yards. This of course using iron sights. Just my 2 cents and no proof.
     
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    The maximum effective range of a Garand is 440 yards? That's a tad unbelievable.

    As for the 600 number, I read somewhere, years and years ago, that regular GI ball ammo (not AP) had to be able to penetrate both sides of a GI steel pot at 600 yards.

    Maybe the penetration requirement carried over into targetting. I mean, heck, if you can't HIT IT at 600, how do you know it will penetrate?
     
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    Agree. Our DCM Matches at Camp Smith back in NY were fired using the Garand at 200yds. standing, 300yds. sitting or kneeling, and 600yds. prone.
     
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    I would think w/ some of the higher twists and newer bullets that one could readily do 600 yards in a service rifle. But is the service rifle for competition limited to 1:9, 1:10 stuff or can it spread out to 1:7-8 or even 223 wylde, etc?
     
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    ms6852 Well-Known Member

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    Just quoting printed literature:http://myplace.frontier.com/~aleccorapinski/id1.html

    Most of the stuff printed as effective range did not really apply to the fatality of the cartridge itself at those distances, I believe it had to do more with the fact of the skill of the shooter using iron sights. When I was in the army we had to qualify with the M16 and we had to engage targets out to 400 yards without a scope. Snipers were the only one that had scopes at the time. Heck I know for a fact that the M16 can reach out and touch someone beyond 600 yds.
     
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  11. Hasaf

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    Great link! Thanks.

    (of course, I really don't think my question is fully answered unless similar link can be posted that shows something at the other distances)
     
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