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Hey guys. I have recently inherited a 30-06 rifle that I can’t find any information on. The butt of the stock is stamped “Win-A-Mer Co. Waseca, Minnesota USA” the serial number is directly in front of the chamber and it marked 1051403. I’m curious about the manufacturer and date of manufacture. Any insight would be extremely helpful! Thanks!
 

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The easiest way to tell is by the serial number. 1903A3's commenced at the Springfield armory at serial number 800,000. His is number 1,051,403
My first Springfield Armory 1903 has a serial number 1,094,xxx. Are you sure the high number rifles did not start at that serial number?

I was looking more at what can be seen in the pictures of the trigger guard and at the rear bridge of the receiver. There also seems to be a groove in the barrel just forward of the receiver that oriented the sleeve for the rear sight.
 

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The easiest way to tell is by the serial number. 1903A3's commenced at the Springfield armory at serial number 800,000. His is number 1,051,403
Springfield rifles that were double heat treated began at serial number 800,000. As best as I can tell from my research, Springfield never made the 1903 A3. Remington came up with that about 1942. In the 3 million range of the serial numbers.

Springfield made 1903s up to SN 1532878, in 1939. Then they discontinued making 1903s because they were making M1s.

His number of a million fifty one thousand was made in 1918.

 

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IF I recall correctly (bearing in mind I cannot recall why I walked into the kitchen) the 1903 had 4 groove rifling. The 1903A3 had 2 groove rifling.

That rifle is a Springfield- and don't think Springfield made A3s.
 

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Springfield rifles that were double heat treated began at serial number 800,000. As best as I can tell from my research, Springfield never made the 1903 A3. Remington came up with that about 1942. In the 3 million range of the serial numbers.

Springfield made 1903s up to SN 1532878, in 1939. Then they discontinued making 1903s because they were making M1s.

His number of a million fifty one thousand was made in 1918.

My bad.
 

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1918 Springfield 1903. If it has the original barrel there is a date stamp near
the muzzle.
Win A Mer is a bit elusive. "Gunstocks and accessories" 1950's.
Font Handwriting Publication Parallel Rectangle
 

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It isn't really all that hard to tell the differences between the 1903 and the 1903A3 rifles. It can be a mystery if the identification stamps on the forward end of the receiver have been ground off or removed, but a dead give away is the top of the receiver bridge. The 1903A3 had a provision for a receiver mounted peep sight - the 1903s had the rear sight on the barrel and didn't have the raised peep sight mounting hump/dovetail on the receiver bridge just aft of the clip charger slot.

The rifle shown here looks like a high number Springfield 1903 that has been altered into a sporting rifle. The receiver has been drilled and tapped for a scope, the bolt handle altered for scope clearance, the safety changed and of course the stock replaced.

Alpo is correct - Springfield never made 1903A3 rifles. All of those were produced by Remington and Smith Corona. Remington did produce 1903s for the U.S. Marine Corps when the Army adopted the .30 M1 rifle and the Marines opted to continue with the 1903 service rifles, but when WW2 started Remington changed over to the 1903A3 modification to produce rifles faster and more cheaply. Smith Corona also produced the 1903A3 to add to the production for American forces (they never produced any 1903 rifles).
 
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