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rounder999
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(1/5/03 10:17:39 am)
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I have the opportunity to trade for a winchester model 12 20ga for a fair price. However the shotgun fires if you hold the trigger down when the action is closed. The seller says he got it that way and it is supposed to be that way. It doesn't sound right to me and I think it may be in need of repair, a disconnector maybe? Has anyone had any experience with this and is it an expensive or complicated fix?
kdub01
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(1/5/03 12:41:47 pm)
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Sounds to me like a very worn sear, or reassembled in an incorrect manner. ThinK I'd pass on it unless the problem could be remedied economically.
"Keep Off The Ridgeline"
JayL
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(1/5/03 9:59:05 pm)
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This is a problem, as opposed to "normal." It is somewhat common on the model 12, but more often seen on the model 97. Generally it can be traced to a worn sear.
Jay L
"Move, Shoot, Communicate!"
rounder999
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(1/7/03 1:49:57 pm)
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Thanks - it didn't seem right, even though it was a "gunsmith" who told me.
Hadaway
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(1/10/03 12:25:24 am)
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It's not a worn sear. There is a stud on the side of the hammer that is engaged by the slide lock. The slide lock holds the hammer in the cocked position while the action is being cycled. More than likely, the stud on the hammer is worn. It's not like it's supposed to be, but it's only a problem if you hold the trigger to the rear while cycling the action. If it's priced where you can have the hammer replaced and still come out to the good, you may want to consider buying it.
Thanks,
Lee
www.thearmsroom.com
rounder999
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(1/13/03 5:21:11 pm)
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I went ahead with the trade, an argentine police hi power I bought for 250.00 4 years ago and he kicked in 75.00. I don't think i'll get hurt as long as the repair isn't prhibitive.
RobC in Missouri
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(1/17/03 5:53:40 pm)
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I was under the impression that older Model 12s and some other shotguns would do this because they were made without disconnectors - at least that's what I read. I had an old Marlin shotgun that would do this...
Some people considered this a "feaure" because you can hold the trigger back and fire off shots as fast as you can pump.
RobC in Missouri
AntiqueDr
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(1/17/03 6:03:35 pm)
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That was the '97, not the Model 12.
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rounder999
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Posts: 1
(1/5/03 10:17:39 am)
Reply | Edit | Del All Winchester Model 12 Auto Trigger?????
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I have the opportunity to trade for a winchester model 12 20ga for a fair price. However the shotgun fires if you hold the trigger down when the action is closed. The seller says he got it that way and it is supposed to be that way. It doesn't sound right to me and I think it may be in need of repair, a disconnector maybe? Has anyone had any experience with this and is it an expensive or complicated fix?
kdub01
*TFF Senior Staff*
Posts: 1698
(1/5/03 12:41:47 pm)
Reply | Edit | Del Re: Winchester Model 12 Auto Trigger?????
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Sounds to me like a very worn sear, or reassembled in an incorrect manner. ThinK I'd pass on it unless the problem could be remedied economically.
"Keep Off The Ridgeline"
JayL
Member
Posts: 48
(1/5/03 9:59:05 pm)
Reply | Edit | Del Re: Winchester Model 12 Auto Trigger?????
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This is a problem, as opposed to "normal." It is somewhat common on the model 12, but more often seen on the model 97. Generally it can be traced to a worn sear.
Jay L
"Move, Shoot, Communicate!"
rounder999
Member
Posts: 3
(1/7/03 1:49:57 pm)
Reply | Edit | Del I kind of thought so
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Thanks - it didn't seem right, even though it was a "gunsmith" who told me.
Hadaway
Member
Posts: 19
(1/10/03 12:25:24 am)
Reply | Edit | Del Winchester Model 12 Auto Trigger?????
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It's not a worn sear. There is a stud on the side of the hammer that is engaged by the slide lock. The slide lock holds the hammer in the cocked position while the action is being cycled. More than likely, the stud on the hammer is worn. It's not like it's supposed to be, but it's only a problem if you hold the trigger to the rear while cycling the action. If it's priced where you can have the hammer replaced and still come out to the good, you may want to consider buying it.
Thanks,
Lee
www.thearmsroom.com
rounder999
Member
Posts: 4
(1/13/03 5:21:11 pm)
Reply | Edit | Del Thanks Lee
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I went ahead with the trade, an argentine police hi power I bought for 250.00 4 years ago and he kicked in 75.00. I don't think i'll get hurt as long as the repair isn't prhibitive.
RobC in Missouri
V.I.P. Member
Posts: 155
(1/17/03 5:53:40 pm)
Reply | Edit | Del Re: Thanks Lee
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I was under the impression that older Model 12s and some other shotguns would do this because they were made without disconnectors - at least that's what I read. I had an old Marlin shotgun that would do this...
Some people considered this a "feaure" because you can hold the trigger back and fire off shots as fast as you can pump.
RobC in Missouri
AntiqueDr
*TFF Senior Staff*
Posts: 3209
(1/17/03 6:03:35 pm)
Reply | Edit | Del
ezSupporter
Re: Thanks Lee
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That was the '97, not the Model 12.
We Buy Guns! 1 - 100, Antique or Modern!
www.apaxenterprises.com
Master Dealer for Kimber, Wilson Combat and Dan Wesson