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  1. RunningOnMT

    RunningOnMT New Member

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    My youngest daughter age 22 works in a video store. It is one of a nationwide chain (not Blockbuster). Recently I learned that many times in the evening they have her scheduled to work alone. The store closes at midnight. On the nights she closes shes usually alone from 8 or 9 pm til close.

    I have never thought it was a great idea to have retail stores open at night with only one employeer...especially a woman. To make matters worse, they make change from an unlocked drawer behind the counter, not a register. Throughout the day and evening every so many hours they have to walk accross the street to the bank and make a deposit of accumulated funds. The last time this is done is after closing. So basically she has to walk accross the street at midnight alone with cash and make a deposit.

    I am just a little put off by this. To me this outfit is too cheap to facillitate employee safety by hiring more people. I told my daughter she should suggest to her regional manager that this is unsafe and that they hire more people so that no one has to be alone. She refused saying "I don't want to make waves...I need my job."

    What do you all think? Am I being overly concerned?

    P.S. Carrying is out of the question for her. She has never expressed any interest in firearms or a desire to shoot.
     
  2. hkruss

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    As the father of a daughter who was robbed at gunpoint, I would say that you are not at all being overly concerned.
    My recommendation would be that you point out to her the possible dangers in her situation, and suggest in the strongest manner that she find another job ASAP. Her safety is the first priority, and I share your concerns.
    It seems that most young people are not truly aware of just how many bad folks there are out there. Parents like us have lived long enough and have seen enough know the dangers that are out there. Please, stay on her about getting another job! Stay on her, even if it irritates her!!

    My prayers for her safety, one dad to another.
     

  3. JetGirl

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    Firstly, you've expressed your desire for her to ask for a safer work environment...it's up to her to choose what to do about it.
    I'd recommend telling her to have a little log book or journal of anything hinkey that goes on...just in case there's ever a problem. It can be proven that nothing was done about a potential safety hazard to an employee.
    Also, have her alert the local PD that this is the routine of the store and have them maybe do a roll by during that close up time. Even the presence can make someone thinking about doing something wrong think twice.
    There are 24 hour banks? Huh. Didn't know that.
    What about other defenses? Mace and the like?
    Does she carry her cell when she makes that trip? Does she have it with her 24/7 at work?
     
  4. delta13soultaker

    delta13soultaker New Member

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    Based on the facts, your concern sounds very legit.

    I have an unconventional suggestion. It does have some risk too. If you want to show her your point:

    Have a good friend that she doesn't know do a slow roll by one night when she's dropping the deposit, then sit and watch her. If this activity doesn't concern her, she is either really brave or really naive. This should motivate her to approach her employer about the folly of their practice.

    Whether it works or fails, never admit any part in it.:D
     
  5. AL MOUNT

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    Not just NO... but HELL NO... :mad:

    Thats tempting fate... her life is worth much more that a minimum, wage job....
     
  6. RunningOnMT

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    Yes...She goes to the ATM and gets a deposit envelope and uses the cash deposit drop.

    In addition to several other of their area stores being robbed there has been a situation there she told me about which is concerning. An assistant manager at the store had a nasty breakup with a boyfriend. Well for some strange reason, not the ex boyfriend, but his best friend has been telephone harrassing and stalking this girl. My daughter said one night this guy called six times to tell her what a sleazy employee they had etc etc. The thing is he doesn't just direct his anger at the girl but to any employee that happens to be there. She said the guy really gave her the creeps.

    Your suggestion about calling the police to explain the situation and ask them to have a patrol car just swing by at least at closing time is a good one. I may do that myself. My daughter always seems reluctant to be proactive.

    Yes she does always carry her cell but to me that's little comfort...not much time for telephone calls when you are being attacked. I plan to buy her a stun gun this week.
     
  7. cycloneman

    cycloneman Well-Known Member

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    Is this girl still in school? If not tell her to go to trade school and take up something other than being a slave to retail. I worked retail when i was in school and i hated it.

    what she is doing is no different than walking out of a bank at midnight with a purse full of money. if that don't paint a picture for her then dude there isn't much you can do for her. Heck I wouldn't take the job.

    I certainly would not take a bag of your money and walk around town with it in the middle of the night.

    Why cant they make the doposit the next day? What's the big deal? National chain, why don't they have an armored service pick up the money?
     
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  8. RunningOnMT

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    Thanks for your comments and prayers. Unforunately this young lady (with ADHD) is as stubborn as her old man....can not be told anything.
     
  9. Suicide*Ride

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    All I would say is to recommend to her to leave the deposit for the guy who opens up in the morning. Tell her to ask her boss if her life is worth more or less than the deposit. If he says her life is worth less... well, it's time to find another job!!
     
  10. 358 winchester

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    RunningOnMT, Your concerns are real and PLEASE tell your daughter I ask her to look for a better / safer job!
    Carla was the most care free lady in the world until she met me then I spent days talking her into taking a;
    " Don't be a Victim Class"
    it is a NRA class and is easy to find one close or have one put on.
    Now my darling wife will look all around before getting out of her vehicle or exiting a store she is even gone so far as to lock me out of the house when she finds a door unlocked.
    It is a great class and has nothing to do with firearms but it puts their minds to work until it becomes second nature, not the best but better than nothing at all. as for me I say carry a 45 ACP and four extra mags. :D
     
  11. pinecone70

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    I have some recollection that in my state it's against the rules for employers to have fewer than two on duty after 9:00p/m, an employee's rights fine print detail or something. I could be mistaken, but employers do have a responsibility to protect their employees and this kind of thing ticks me off.
     
  12. RunningOnMT

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    Sorry to say she is not in school. This kid (I can still call her that) is extremely talented, a gifted artist and has a beautiful voice. She spent one year away at college majoring in musical theater which was a disaster...she loved the singing but hated theory, stage class, etc. Now she's talking about going to a better school for musical performance. Only problem is it's $30,000.00 per year plus dorm. Can't even come close to putting a dent in that one and the simple truth is the odds of the degree in that area leading to compensation justifying the cost are slim. She wont accept anything less. With her it's all or nothing. I adore my little dreamer, though I worry about her future.
     
  13. cycloneman

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    i hear ya. dont feel bad there are plenty of them out there causing their dad's greef. Mine, shoot, ah,,,,,,,, she is attracted to stupidity like stink on ****. Anything that she could do to embarrass me, she's done it. I swear that's that mail man's kid.
     
  14. Vladimir

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    The alone thing isn't as big as a deal personally. These kinds of robberies (even IF they happen, which is a big IF) tend not to be harmful aside from the distress. The bank activity is very odd. My dad used to work off duty for companies and one of his main tasks was escorting the individual to the bank for deposits. That seems just like poor company policy.

    I know I'm in the minority here as most of us carry because no matter how unlikely something is, we still want to be prepared. But most people just don't think that way, and it does work out fine for most people.

    Like I said though, the bank activity is a bit concerned- there I see much more potential for a physical confrontation.

    I do empathize with your daughter though, I've been in similar situations (different problems, but didn't want to make waves). Unfortunately with ANY position you risk putting your job at risk if you make waves, no matter how logical or how simple those waves are. Some people just take it very personally and WILL make your life a living hell. Unfortunately to that end, I have no advice other than perhaps she can connect with other employees and make a group request.

    EDIT: Depending on where you live maybe the cops would be happy to show up and help someone to the ATM every night. Again, depending on where you live, at this time of night cops are normally bored and would possibly be happy to do it. I don't think it is the kind of request that could come from your daughter but rather like a store manager though.
     
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  15. 4EvrLearning

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    ROMT: As others have said aptly, your concerns are VERY legitimate, and your frustrations are completely understandable.

    How's this for an idea: Call the corporate office and say you were a customer in there, late at night, and noticed a lone female working there, and as the father of a girl that age, you wondered what their policy is.
     
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