Something that came up in another thread that Alpo mentioned that got me to thinking and that was how old we were when we got out 1st Deer rifle. I was 17 years old. It was a war prize German Mauser that my Uncle passed down to me. 8 mm 1944 vintage. Hunted with it a few years never shot anything with it. Man those sights were fine. Makes me wonder how the Germans ever hit anything in low light. Peeps would have been better. Don't have it anymore. Gave it to a friend who did some work at my house when i was laid up in the hospital. He loved Military style rifles. And i needed some room in my gun cabinet for a 1860 Henry rifle that i just had bought.