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Mauser Mod 98 Identification help?

7.6K views 12 replies 7 participants last post by  P35  
#1 ·
I recently inherited a Mauser Mod 98. Serial numbers on the barrel and receiver are "6042L". Upper band and both parts of the stock are "6042".
The bolt, bolt shroud, and safety lever all have different numbers. The receiver has "dOU" and "44" stamped on it. The barrel has "dOU" and also has "A80 A8c" in much smaller type stamped on it. Whatever stamped logo that was on the receiver and barrel has been ground away. I have my suspicions what was there. If anyone is able, please share what you might know about this rifle. Photos to follow. My sincere thanks to anyone that might have the time and knowledge to share.
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#4 ·
I agree with most, but usually with rebuilds no attention is given to matching numbers. The nose cap (late war production welded) numbers match the rifle. These rifles were built for the German Army in occupied territories and this one is an authentic WW2 relic.

You say that stamps have been ground off of the barrel and receiver? I'm not seeing what you mentioned. Please take a photo of the areas that you believe were ground away. Also, look at the underside of the barrel towards the front sight. That would normally be where an importer's stamp will be located.

If I'm guessing right - the numbers stamped into the wood match the serial numbers on the receiver and barrel. To me that would rule out a "post-War" rebuild. Lastly - what numbers (if any) are stamped on the trigger guard/floorplate - and what are those 'non matching' numbers on the bolt handle and bolt shroud?

You have a very nice rifle that you can be proud to own and (hopefully) shoot.
 
#6 ·
Thank you all for the information. Here are some answers to your questions:
You can see in the third and fourth photos where the stamps have been ground off. In the third photo you can see it on the barrel between the serial number and the rear sight. In the fourth photo it is just above the "dou" stamp.
The receiver has "Mod 98" stamped on the side.
The serial numbers for the bolt parts are as follows:
Bolt (on the handle): 6581 e
Bolt shroud: 3148
Bolt safety lever: 7683
The serial numbers on both parts of the stock, the upper band, the barrel, and the carrier all match.
I did not look for a serial number on the trigger guard or an importers mark the underside of the barrel. I will look for those and post the results later.
 
#7 ·
Hawg pointed out where there was a slight grind that escaped my aged eyes. As far as the bolt - it is a mis-match (you already knew that). The mis-match bolt takes away from collector value. This isn't as uncommon as you might think. What IS rare is to find any '98 with ALL matching numbers. Sometimes Importers will do a hap-hazzard "inspection" and mix up parts. You still have a very nice '98 - just that it would have more cash value IF the original bolt had come with it.

If the trigger guard parts are serialized - it will be quite obvious at first glance. Being a 1944 production '98 Mauser if can have either the milled trigger guard or the late war stamped 'guard. It does have the stamped/welded front band so there is a greater chance it will also have the stamped trigger guard and floor plate.

I am NOT a "Mauser Expert". I've just owned 5 or 6 over the years.
 
#8 ·
I'm about sure that's a Czech refurb, they're the only ones that used that stock finish. The only other place you'll see that finish, is on a Russian Capture refurb. "Most" Czech refurbs got a dark hot blue too.
The bolt being mismatched, but matching itself, would indicate a vet bring back. Mismatch to the gun, and itself, indicates a refurb too, unless you find an importers stamp that says CAI on it.
The ground off waffenamt, I've only seen on Russian Captures, and that "could" explain the bolt numbers. But, RC's almost always got an X stamped on the receiver ring. There are examples that didn't get the X, but the swastika's were ground, or the very least "pinged", center punched marks to deface it. They were field expedient examples, that went right back to the front. Some rifles changed hands more than once.
 
#9 ·
My apologies for the long delay. I sincerely appreciate all of the responses and information. I found another stamp on the front right side of the barrel. Line one is "K98 GERMAN 8MM" and line two is "CA.I. ST. ALB VT." Would anyone know what this might mean? Photo attached.
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#13 ·
I'm new here but have a little experience with the subject. You have a Russian capture that was imported into the US in the late 90s after tens of thousands of these were released from former eastern block countries. The grind marks as other mentioned was the de-Nazification of the weapons that the Russians performed. Here is another dou similar to yours only it's a 42 along with some other items I was taking photos of. Many of them had some rough bores as the original ammo had corrosive primers and if they didn't keep them clean it was very hard on the bore. If the bore is good go out and shoot it and enjoy it. I've collected WWII memorabilia most of my life having grown up a military brat in Germany in the late 50s and 60s.

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