Please don't use surplus 7.62x25mm pistol and smg ammo in your 7.63x25mm C96 Mauser. Yes, the Tokarev rounds will chamber in the Broomhandle, but they work at much higher pressures. I've run into the same quandry in that I have a 7.63 Bolo Mauser and several thousand rounds of 7.62x25mm Tokarev ammo - which aside from working at higher pressures have corrosive primers. A TFF member was very kind in sending me 20 fired 7.63x25mm boxer primed cases, which I'll reload with the projectiles he'd also provided, and in time will be using projectiles pulled from the Tokarev rounds - they mike the same .3075-.308 as the Mauser projectiles, and are essentially the same weight. In a real pinch you can make boxer primed 7.63x25mm Mauser cases from trimmed .223 brass - there's a You Tube tutorial on this, but it's a fair amount of work.

 

Actually the Tokarev is less pressure than the Mauser.

 

Pics! Broomhandle Mausers are one sweet looking pistol!

 

I think you've misread your manual, if you think it says you can shoot Tok ammo in a Broomhandle. It will fit, but like Super 38 in a gun chambered for 38 ACP, it is extremely overpressure, and can cause damage up to and including going KABOOM in your hand.

Don't Do It.

Possibly your manual says you can use Tok dies, or Tok brass, to make Broomhandle ammo.

 

Thanks for your replies and I will adhere to them. I'll check the local gun stores and the gun shows to find the proper ammo for it. I just paid close to $300 getting it fixed so it can shoot, and the last thing I want to do is blow it or myself up. I'll take a few pictures of it later today and post them on here.

 

Here's a pair I have. A friend gave me around 600 rds of 7.65x25mm Tok. A couple hundred are Boxer primed, so I will pull them down and reload the brass. I went out and picked up a CZ52 to burn up the rest.......

 

starline brass makes the brass for the 7.62.25 TOK

 

Damn nice guns! Made it my computer wallpaper!

 

if you are using 7.62x25 boxer brass to load 7.63, then DO get the 7.63 die. I was looking at this a few weeks ago.. and there is a shoulder difference.

Many people make commercial 7.63 ammo. ppu/prvi fioochi at least a couple others.

as my avatar implies. I collect brooms , bolo's and copies and similar guns.. like the carbines.. etc.

 

Here's a few pictures of my Broomhandle.

More pictures at;
http://s154.photobucket.com/user/Pustic/library/My Guns and gun stuff/My Broomhandle

http://s154.photobucket.com/user/Pustic/slideshow/My Guns and gun stuff/My Broomhandle

 

one of my broom handles

 

Well I'll be, we have one just like that! Wonder if they're consecutively numbered?

 

ok.. for the topical post i guess.

an astra 900

 

Well, I went to the gun show today, and found four boxes of 7.63 Mauser. Now I can shoot my Broomhandle.

 

That is good! Now, go out and play!

 

and now you have brass to reload for it too!

 

I know, and I just ordered a set of Lee .30 Mauser pistol dies for it. I have plenty of small pistol primers and powders, I'll just need to get projectiles.

 

i need to get the mauser dies. I messed up and thought i had them but they were tok dies.

 

http://www.brownells.com/reloading/...dgun-dies/lee-steel-3-die-pistol-die-sets-prod56307.aspx?avs|Cartridge_1=ADA_30 Mauser

 

I just watched Clint Eastwood in "Joe Kidd" tonight, and I'd swear one of the bad guys was shooting that rig. Clint - aka, Joe - later stole it from him, after killing him of course, and used it for a higher purpose. The movie was set in about 1896; would that be consistent for this gun?

[EDIT] Ooh, I almost forgot. The bad guy in the movie loaded this gun from a stripper clip! I thought those were a fairly new invention... [/EDIT]

 

Herr Mauser invented the stripper clip for his 1893 Mauser rifle. Stripper clip reloading, along with the better ballistics of the 7mm Mauser round, are two or the reasons why the Cubans gave us such grief in the Spanish American War, and why the Krag was only an issue rifle for about ten years. Even the trapdoor Springfield was in service longer than that.

We came back from Cuba and invented the 1903 Springfield. Mauser sued the US in World Court, for patent infringement, and won, forcing us to pay him royalties.

While it is possible to load an 1896 Broomhandle without a clip, it is a thorough pain in the ass.

 

Soundguy, that gun of Pustic's. That's a Bolo, ain't it?

 

yup, short bbl. usually called a bolo. smaller grips and a 3.9" bbl

bolo as you know comes from Bolsheviks... ie.. october revoloution, or Bolsheviks revoloution officially an m1921
it was a common gun for them to carry, and the nickname carried over. short bbl made it easier to carry / hide.

 

I use the same .3085 diameter 93 grain FMJ bullets made for the Tokarov and the Mauser for reloading my 7.65 French Long. I buy them in bulk at Gun Shows in Denver sold by Dad's Reloading Supplies. Don't know who makes them because I buy them in 500 bulk packs.

Never have fired one of those Broomhandles. Are they as muzzle heavy as they look? They are definitely a classic.

 

weight IS forward of the hand due to the box magazine, but it is not heavy out to the muzzle at least.

 

Actually the Tokarev is less pressure than the Mauser.

Care to cite this statement??

 

Everything I've read said the Tokarev round has the larger powder charge and operates at a higher pressure. It is considered safe to use the 7.63 X 25 Mauser round in a Tokarev chambered firearm, but not the other way around. Interestingly, I have read that you can make 7.62 x 25 Tokarev brass from 5.56 NATO or 223 Rem. brass.